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Link to article: "Congregational Theocracy: That Time Theocrats Ran Puritan New England",

https://theopolisinstitute.com/congregational-theocracy-that-time-theocrats-ran-puritan-new-england%ef%bf%bc/

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Hi Timon!

Obviously we agree that the Puritans were NOT "guided by the Bible only." Indeed, I would say that any Biblical person is not guided by the Bible only because the Bible explicitly commends other sources of authority, such as Paul in Romans 1:18ff pointing to creation.

I don't think I over emphasize Puritans from their predecessors. There's a gradation of Puritanism in contrast to (pre-restoration) Anglicanism. The bulk of the New England Puritans -- as congregationalists -- were some of the more radical in contrast to Anglicanism, although as non-separatist, not as theoretically radical as the Plymouth settlers. And, by the way, their claim to not be separatists while physically separating is not an empty fiction but a highly important part of their identity and what made them so potent in shaping the culture: engagement, rather than the withdrawal of modern fundamentalism.

I admit that "secularizing" is not the best term for what you're arguing. I'm sorry I was constrained for words in an already long piece and didn't have time to elaborate but it does seem your case is of a kind that results secularizing the “City Upon a Hill,” even if much milder than similar arguments. That is, you appear to be arguing that Puritan NE wasn't that different than "Merrie Olde England". Of course, at the time, even the English homeland wasn't itself "secular" (by modern standards). But you seem to be moving in the direction toward making NE less distinct from the homeland.

I'm not sure what "fact" I made a "feeble attempt to get around."

The electorate does rule the USA. If enough of the electorate decides on the same policies, they can elect representatives who will pass the laws they want or even constitutional amendments and select the judges who will decide as they think best.

I don't say or imply that "Congregational New England and modern America are pure democracies." That's just a misunderstanding.

Elders in Puritan New England did not rule. Indeed, they often couldn't select sermon series or move to another church without the permission of the church, i.e. the members voting on it. In Puritan NE "In church and state, power is received by the rulers" through the church members. Churches were independent. Synods had no enforcement power, other than say that a particular church wasn't a part of the synod.

In antebellum America, one did not have to be a church member to vote and the percentage of church members was never any where near 98%.

Real theocracy is the ideal. Indeed, Christ commands us to seek it above all (Mt. 6:33.) Puritan NE was trying to be one. Your last paragraph describes a theocracy and then states that it is not a theocracy. Your problem is that your definition of "theocracy" is too restrictive, prohibiting congregationalists from being theocrats.

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